{"id":18805,"date":"2020-02-12T16:45:28","date_gmt":"2020-02-12T16:45:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/?p=18805"},"modified":"2020-02-12T16:45:28","modified_gmt":"2020-02-12T16:45:28","slug":"fish-kettles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/?p=18805","title":{"rendered":"Fish Kettles"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you said that something was <strong>&#8220;a different kettle of fish&#8221;<\/strong> or <strong>&#8220;another kettle of fish&#8221;<\/strong>, you would mean that it&#8217;s something else altogether, and very different to what you have been discussing. At least in the UK.<\/p>\n<p>This expression dates from the late 19th century, and is\/was most common in Scotland and northern England. Before then, fish kettles featured in the phrase <strong>&#8220;a pretty kettle of fish&#8221;<\/strong>, which means &#8220;a muddle or awkward state of affairs&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>A fish kettle (see below) is type of long saucepan used since the 17th century to poach fish, especially large fish like salmon.<\/p>\n<p><a data-flickr-embed=\"true\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/16427686@N00\/4357150780\/in\/photolist-7D2x8j-28qxLr1-27b2nD7-YCzFLW-NM3Bf7-LdfK6Y-Z68X62-G36C5-4Pre4H-nZ424k-9reDhr-drPFpQ-drPtD8-drPyaM-NQirBL-7vSJWN-det1di-qGGCnJ-det1zn-7kH7ot-ttKkd-dM8Zyv-drPyMF-drPTSq-6hcDhE-drPvWr-5CCMdS-BDwTH-drPG31-drPD8d-9Pu5hh-6r8Ety-drPKX4-aEgttD-drPwnZ-aQS7ov-4ojogR-6cRxsB-fpsymZ-yyhEXV-95Jnr5-6DZgTQ-8EJ7Ha-9Prdsv-4oorvu-SyQ1t9-v9eNv-g5jxCx-bNxSCM-tPVxb\" title=\"Fish Kettle\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/4011\/4357150780_a66625547b_z.jpg\" alt=\"Fish Kettle\" width=\"640\" height=\"372\"><\/a><script async=\"\" src=\"\/\/embedr.flickr.com\/assets\/client-code.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Appartently in the USA you might say that it&#8217;s <strong>&#8220;quite another story&#8221;<\/strong>, <strong>&#8220;a whole different story&#8221;<\/strong>, <strong>&#8220;a different ball game&#8221;<\/strong> or <strong>&#8220;a horse of a different color<\/strong>. Are there others?<\/p>\n<p>Equivalents of these idioms in French include <strong>&#8220;c&#8217;est une autre paire de manches&#8221;<\/strong> (it&#8217;s another pair of sleeves&#8221;) and <strong>&#8220;c&#8217;est une toute autre histoire&#8221;<\/strong> (it&#8217;s a whole other story). Do you know of others in French or other languages?<\/p>\n<p>Sources: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/dictionary.reverso.net\/french-english\/une%20autre%20paire%20de%20manches\">Reverso<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.phrases.org.uk\/meanings\/a-different-kettle-of-fish.html\">The Phrase Finder<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you said that something was &#8220;a different kettle of fish&#8221; or &#8220;another kettle of fish&#8221;, you would mean that it&#8217;s something else altogether, and very different to what you have been discussing. At least in the UK. This expression dates from the late 19th century, and is\/was most common in Scotland and northern England. [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[104,107,111,10,78],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18805","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-english","category-etymology","category-french","category-language","category-words-and-phrases"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18805","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18805"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18805\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18814,"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18805\/revisions\/18814"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18805"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18805"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.omniglot.com\/bloggle\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18805"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}