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Postby anna » Wed 06 May 2009 9:23 pm

Is anyone able to recommend any books for learning Hungarian? I have got Teach Yourself and the CD's which are fine for pronounciation but hopeless for grammar. What I particularly need is a good course teaching grammar constructions and a good dictionary. Any ideas? Anna
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Re: Hungarian

Postby linguoboy » Wed 06 May 2009 11:06 pm

Personally, I found Jerry Payne's Colloquial Hungarian text superior to TY Hungarian. It's not technically a grammar, but there is a lot of grammatical information in it including an extensive treatment of derivation morphology (i.e. how to form new words by means of prefixes and suffixes).
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Re: Hungarian

Postby ILuvEire » Thu 07 May 2009 3:57 am

I quite like Beginner's Hungarian. It's got a lot of grammar goodness.

As for a dictionary, I like Hungarian Practical Dictionary
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Re: Hungarian

Postby anna » Thu 07 May 2009 9:37 pm

Many thanks for your suggestions - I'll try and get those books. Anna
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Re: Hungarian

Postby Delodephius » Fri 08 May 2009 12:04 am

Jó napot kívánok!

I would also like to learn Hungarian one day. Most of the documents and books where I live that were written prior to the end of World War I are written in Hungarian. Whole encyclopaedias and journals lying there in the library's archive and no one to read them.

I'm also 1/8 Hungarian and that great grandfather was also my namesake. And all I can say is good day?! :x
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Re: Hungarian

Postby Talib » Fri 08 May 2009 1:00 am

Once a friend of mine asked me if I could translate a brief passage in Hungarian (from the movie Chicago) and I got an Oxford Hungarian-Dictionary from the library. (I did this partly as a favour to her and also because I was really curious to see how the language worked.) That was a good dictionary, and my translation wasn't too off (I also submitted it to a language forum). Trouble is, I couldn't seem to find this dictionary online when I just searched for it. But if you see an Oxford Hungarian-English dictionary, buy it.

And good luck with Hungarian. It's a fascinating language, very unique.
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Re: Hungarian

Postby dtp883 » Fri 08 May 2009 1:52 am

This passage?

"Mit keresek, enn itt? Azt mondjok, hogy lakem lefogta a ferjemet
en meg lecsaptam a fejet. De nem igaz, en artatlan vagyok. Nem
tudom mert mondja Uncle Sam hogy en tetten. Probaltam a rendorsegen
megmagyarazni de nem ertettek meg"
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Re: Hungarian

Postby Talib » Fri 08 May 2009 2:18 am

Yep.

It was a real pain to translate too, because I wasn't familiar with agglutinative grammar (in fact I'm still not really) but I got something somewhat close to the original meaning.

I love taking a good look at a language completely unrelated to my own, because since all of the morphemes are unfamiliar to me I can see how words are derived without having to worry about trying to figure out their meanings. And languages like Hungarian take word derivation to extremes.
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Re: Hungarian

Postby Delodephius » Fri 08 May 2009 11:23 pm

Hungarians are Slovaks' ancient enemies. My Slovak ancestors have been under Hungarian rule for almost a thousand years, roughly from 955 to 1918. Nationalistic tensions are high even today.

A funny thing is that Slovaks consider Hungarian language to be the hardest one, while the Hungarians think the same of Slovak. :lol:
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Re: Hungarian

Postby anna » Mon 11 May 2009 4:56 pm

I've been away at a conference the last few days, but have just got home and am catching up on posts. Thanks for the new ones. I shouldn't have too much trouble with agglutination as I've been learning Finnish for over a year now. One of the things I am keeping an eye open for are the similarities between Finnish and Hungarian.

Yes, neighbours often are/have been enemies in the past. Until the 20th century, the 'main' enemies of the English were the French. And don't get me started on the Welsh and the English...!
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