benny335 wrote:For a colang idea
frankskim wrote: . . . And once pronunciation and the cumbersome writing system are mastered, Mandarin (and likely other Chinese languages) actually becomes fairly easy because of how simple the grammar is in comparison to some other languages'.
Dan_ad_nauseam wrote:Actually, I had as much trouble with resultatives as I did with tones.
linguoboy wrote:Dan_ad_nauseam wrote:Actually, I had as much trouble with resultatives as I did with tones.
For me the aspect system in general has been very tricky to master. I still sometimes forget when I need to double up on 了 and when I don't. And don't even ask me when to use 在.
Even if we confine ourselves to pronunciation, it should be noted that Shanghainese has a richer vowel system than Mandarin and three-way voicing distinction in the stops (voiceless aspirated, voiceless unaspirated, voiced) that is devilish for speakers of most European languages to master. (Mandarin has a simple aspiration distinction that is very similar to that found in English.)
benny335 wrote:The Hardest this for me in Mandarin is the tones.
benny335 wrote:I've been told that I make faces when I try to say them. The other thing that's hard is pronunceation is not always like English.
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