MEŽDUSLOVIENSKI JAZYKY - МЕЖДУСЛОВІЕНСКИ ЯЗЫКЫ

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VIDEA I PREZENTACIE

Postby Vojta » Thu 11 Nov 2010 7:58 pm

Pozrijte na videa i prezentacie, koježe imajeme podgotovieni za X-ij vseslovienskij kongres v Kievie, 12 - 14-ij November 2010.

https://sites.google.com/site/novoslovienskij/youtube
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Re: MEŽDUSLOVIENSKI JAZYKY - МЕЖДУСЛОВІЕНСКИ ЯЗЫКЫ

Postby Delodephius » Thu 11 Nov 2010 11:13 pm

Mr. Merunka, I want to ask you a question about the future of Novoslovienskij. I would just like to hear your opinion about whether or not this language will see a widespread use in the future? Do the goals set for this language even have potential of realization?

My second question would be: in what way does Novoslovienskij differ from Slovianski? Apart from their origin that is. And which one is more easier/practical?

And thirdly, I noticed that you have a link to a Veneti page on your website. Though I have been reading on the Venetic origin of the Slavic languages for a long time now, I have found it insufficient and I'm in a process of developing my own theory. If you are interested I could write a short article for your website in a form of thesis.

Thank you,
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Re: MEŽDUSLOVIENSKI JAZYKY - МЕЖДУСЛОВІЕНСКИ ЯЗЫКЫ

Postby Vojta » Thu 11 Nov 2010 11:47 pm

Delodephie!

S radostij čitaju Vaše pismo. Moji otvietienia sut:

Delodephius wrote:Mr. Merunka, I want to ask you a question about the future of Novoslovienskij. I would just like to hear your opinion about whether or not this language will see a widespread use in the future? Do the goals set for this language even have potential of realization?


I do not know, but there are some promising things:
1) Interest and little support from E.U. authorities. (We had an E.U. project this year and plan new one: http://ec.europa.eu/education/trainingd ... &cid=24601)
2) Interest of people from the Czech Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Dept. of turism.
3) Usability of the NS language as a tool for automatic machine translation between slavic languages. For example: ISO standards will be translated into NS, which all slavic language translations will be generated automatically from.
4) Interest of czech sanskirt experts - they say that NS language has enough of syntactical power to traslate from sanskirt automatically and loss-less. This could be very inovative, because there is yet no modern euro language having this feature.
5) market, business, turism - short texts, guides, plans, etc.
6) a tool how to enable culture of special slavic languages to the others. For example, this is hot case for Lusatian Sorbs in Germany.
7) A tool for easier learning slavic languages. You start with NS in order to have easier and faster learning-curve of the target slavic language. Using NS you can passively understand faster other slavic language.

Delodephius wrote:My second question would be: in what way does Novoslovienskij differ from Slovianski? Apart from their origin that is. And which one is more easier/practical?


Languages evolved parallelly, but now our teams collaborate. We will have the same dictionary of modern words and we have the same internal code. Look here: http://steen.free.fr/slovianski/nauczny ... ansky.html This is not yet ready nor perfect, but we seriously want to share words. NS can be regarded as a super-set of Slovianski. (In mathematical way):
NS has vocative, 5 verbal participles, 6 verbal tenses, etc.
Moreover, Slovianski does not have elaborated morphology like construction of sentences and subordinate clauses, adjectives and non-conforming attributes etc.

For translation of professional (law, sci, math, hist, natur, ...) texts, knowledge transfer, ... Slovianski is not enough. But it could serve well in basic conversation situations.

I do not know, maybe in the future we will have only one language having more smoothly ordered morphological levels.

Delodephius wrote:And thirdly, I noticed that you have a link to a Veneti page on your website. Though I have been reading on the Venetic origin of the Slavic languages for a long time now, I have found it insufficient and I'm in a process of developing my own theory. If you are interested I could write a short article for your website in a form of thesis.


Oh yes, I have read this book in Slovenian, but I do not have it. There were interesting language similarities between paleoslavic and venetian and etruscan I remember. This is a nice theory about protoslavic continuum in the ancient age spread from bohemian area through the entire river of Danube up to Balkan and south Ukraine. Also, there are some paleographic evidences, but total number of usable things is too small. Yes, please, write this thesis. The best place for it is Facebook, Novoslovienskij jazyk group (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=347726497752).

all the best

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Re: MEŽDUSLOVIENSKI JAZYKY - МЕЖДУСЛОВІЕНСКИ ЯЗЫКЫ

Postby Delodephius » Fri 12 Nov 2010 12:26 am

4) Interest of czech sanskirt experts - they say that NS language has enough of syntactical power to traslate from sanskirt automatically and loss-less. This could be very inovative, because there is yet no modern euro language having this feature.

Yes, I have been reading on Slavic-Sanskrit similarities in the past, I even have a book about common words between Slavic languages and Sanskrit, well just volume one out of three. I also have a quite a lengthy book about possible Indo-Aryan influence on Proto-Slavic languages. I'll mention something of it in my thesis.

For translation of professional (law, sci, math, hist, natur, ...) texts, knowledge transfer, ... Slovianski is not enough. But it could serve well in basic conversation situations.

Well that was my speculation too. I imagine that Slovianski being an artificial language would be limited in one way or another, while Novoslovianski being based on an evolved though archaic language would have a more developed terminology.

I'll write my thesis in a few months. I am not a professor nor have I been to college. I'm just an amateur researcher. Just to mention that, so no one expects too much of me.
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Re: MEŽDUSLOVIENSKI JAZYKY - МЕЖДУСЛОВІЕНСКИ ЯЗЫКЫ

Postby Vojta » Fri 12 Nov 2010 10:32 pm

I ještie:

Staroslovienskij jazyk (az vieruju že takože novoslovienskij) imaje veliku expresivnu silu. Jedin expert lingvista mnie nedavno kazal jest, že staroslovienskij bieše samo jedin europskij jazyk, kojže imaše rovnu bogatost jako Sanskirt. On sebie mysli, že novoslovienskij jazyk može byti instrumentom automatičnih preloženij meždu slovienskimi jazyky i možno takože iz Sanskrta. Naš kolega - gosp. dr. Datel (kojže sada jest v Kievie na kongresie) jest češskij expert tehničskih standardov i norem. On imaje ideu prekladania meždunarodnih standardov ISO (http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue.htm) samo do jednego NS jazyka, iz kojegože by vsi Slovieni mogli automatično s pomoštij komputera generovati texty v svojih narodnih jazykah. (Možno ne znaješ, no prekladania standardov ISO do narodnih jazykov jest težka rabota.)

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Re: MEŽDUSLOVIENSKI JAZYKY - МЕЖДУСЛОВІЕНСКИ ЯЗЫКЫ

Postby Vojta » Mon 15 Nov 2010 11:36 pm

We have got a new grant of E.U. for 2011 !!!
http://ec.europa.eu/education/trainingd ... &cid=26829
(This is our second one)
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Re: MEŽDUSLOVIENSKI JAZYKY - МЕЖДУСЛОВІЕНСКИ ЯЗЫКЫ

Postby mirmar » Tue 16 Nov 2010 11:46 pm

Hi!

This is an interesting project! I'm a native speaker of Slovenian, living 20km from Croatian border. I also learned Russian and spent some time in .ru. I did understand the stories you posted - but those three languages are quite different in terms of vocabulary.

The problem arises, not with understanding, but with producing content. Maybe it would be best if you popularized the language by translating the user interfaces of popular open source software (like phpBB or Joomla frontend).

If you really want the project to take off, I'd suggest that you translate Firefox user interface - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html .

Then also create an online (searchable) dictionary (maybe with declension patterns)...
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Re: MEŽDUSLOVIENSKI JAZYKY - МЕЖДУСЛОВІЕНСКИ ЯЗЫКЫ

Postby Vojta » Sun 21 Nov 2010 11:59 pm

mirmar wrote:... Maybe it would be best if you popularized the language by translating the user interfaces of popular open source software (like phpBB or Joomla frontend).

If you really want the project to take off, I'd suggest that you translate Firefox user interface - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html .

Then also create an online (searchable) dictionary (maybe with declension patterns)
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Hi,

This is exactly what we want to work on! Joomla interface will be translated and I hope we will have our dictionary with patterns as well next year when our E.U. course will be started.

Thank You very much for Your interest! Please, send me email with Your home address at vmerunka@gmail.com. I will invite You to the project.

V.
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INTERSLAVIC NEWS

Postby Vojta » Fri 02 Sep 2011 2:52 am

Hello!

this is the address of our interslavic news. It is open for all slavic conlangs.

http://IZVIESTIJA.info
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SPEECH SYNTHETIZER

Postby Vojta » Fri 02 Sep 2011 2:55 am

Hello!

this is the address of our speech synthetizer. Try two built-in demos. ;)

http://www.izviestija.info/generator_reci.html
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