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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010 6:46 pm 
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I knew it was no longer official, but it seems to be clinging on in some capacity.
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Spanish ceased to be an official language in 1973 and a college requirement in 1987, during Corazón Aquino's administration. However, the language is still spoken today by Filipino-Spanish mestizos and Spanish families, who are mainly concentrated in Metro Manila, Iloilo and Cebu. It remains a required subject in many universities, such as the University of Santo Tomás of Manila and the University of San Carlos in Cebu.

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar 2010 11:53 pm 
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I'm not sure if my mother know Spanish or not; she did go to university there. So maybe she learnt it but has forgotten it. For the most part, English has replaced Spanish as the "top dog" language there.

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
PostPosted: Tue 13 Apr 2010 6:41 pm 
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French and German.

Then Portuguese and Dutch :)

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
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French and German.

Which French, Old World or New World?

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
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linguoboy wrote:
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French and German.

Which French, Old World or New World?

Why would I bother with New World?

Gotta have the real deal. :)

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
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Why would I bother with New World?

Because that's where you are?

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Gotta have the real deal.

In that case, perhaps you should start studying English.

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
PostPosted: Tue 13 Apr 2010 7:22 pm 
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linguoboy wrote:
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Why would I bother with New World?

Because that's where you are?

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Gotta have the real deal.

In that case, perhaps you should start studying English.

I am not associated with this "Oh you're in America, therefore think like an American!" I am a European at heart, therefore I am learning most if not all of the major languages of Europe. Also, the "New World" languages (Latin American[Mexican] Spanish, South American Spanish, Suriname Dutch, French-Canadian, etc) are very unattractive considering people in my area of California are mostly European and not native Americans. Therefore they would laugh at me for a poor understanding of the language.

Perhaps I should start studying English? Do you have short-term memory? Did you not see my introduction posts?

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
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Smart wrote:
Do you have short-term memory? Did you not see my introduction posts?

I did see them. In fact, I even spotted the one where you say:
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Yes I have been to Mexico and the Bahamas.
So do forgive me if I take all this "I am a European at heart" business with a heaping helping of salt. At one time I also considered myself very "European at heart". Then I actually went to Europe and lived there.

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I am not associated with this "Oh you're in America, therefore think like an American!"

No one needs to tell you to do that; you do it already without even being aware of it.

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Also, the "New World" languages (Latin American[Mexican] Spanish, South American Spanish, Suriname Dutch, French-Canadian, etc) are very unattractive considering people in my area of California are mostly European and not native Americans. Therefore they would laugh at me for a poor understanding of the language.

What makes you think so? I've never had a European mock me for speaking an American variety of their language. (Or vice-versa.) Am I just lucky? Also, where in California could you possibly live where speakers of European Spanish outnumber speakers of American Spanish?

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I know proper English (British-English) and American-English.

Which form of British English do you consider the "proper" one? And do you actually speak it with other Americans?

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
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linguoboy wrote:
Smart wrote:
Do you have short-term memory? Did you not see my introduction posts?

I did see them. In fact, I even spotted the one where you say:
Smart wrote:
Yes I have been to Mexico and the Bahamas.
So do forgive me if I take all this "I am a European at heart" business with a heaping helping of salt. At one time I also considered myself very "European at heart". Then I actually went to Europe and lived there.

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I am not associated with this "Oh you're in America, therefore think like an American!"

No one needs to tell you to do that; you do it already without even being aware of it.

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Also, the "New World" languages (Latin American[Mexican] Spanish, South American Spanish, Suriname Dutch, French-Canadian, etc) are very unattractive considering people in my area of California are mostly European and not native Americans. Therefore they would laugh at me for a poor understanding of the language.

What makes you think so? I've never had a European mock me for speaking an American variety of their language. (Or vice-versa.) Am I just lucky? Also, where in California could you possibly live where speakers of European Spanish outnumber speakers of American Spanish?

Smart wrote:
I know proper English (British-English) and American-English.

Which form of British English do you consider the "proper" one? And do you actually speak it with other Americans?


1. I only recently got allowed to have a passport, those were the only two places that did not require a passport for travel on the Seas (Cruises). I could care less about them.

2. No I do not.

3. Southern California. I was speaking more specifically about French not Spanish.

4. You believe there to be more than one British-English? Well whatever is the normal one that I see every time I go online and speak with people from England. And yes I do use it with other Americans, so much so i am often not completely understood. Then again their vocabularies consist of not even 5,000 words.

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
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1. I only recently got allowed to have a passport, those were the only two places that did not require a passport for travel on the Seas (Cruises). I could care less about them.

Whatever. The point stands that your knowledge of "Europeanness" is still purely notional at this point.

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2. No I do not.

Yep, you do. I'm sorry you feel it necessary to deny this; there's no shame to it, it's just a fact about you like your reaction time and whether or not you're lactose-intolerant.

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3. Southern California. I was speaking more specifically about French not Spanish.

Sure about that? A lot of Québécois winter in California.

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4. You believe there to be more than one British-English?

Don't you? Can you not distinguish Liverpudlian from Glaswegian or Welsh English from West Yorkshire?

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Well whatever is the normal one that I see every time I go online and speak with people from England.

Where in England are they from? And when you say "go online and speak with [them]", do you mean by Skype or something?

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And yes I do use it with other Americans, so much so i am often not completely understood.

That's a bit odd. I don't generally make a point of using vocabulary I don't think people will recognise if I also know words they do. Sure, I could insist on asking the Mexicans who work on campus for pavo instead of guajalote and tortillas instead of omeletes, but at the end of the day I just want them to fix the food I'd like to eat.

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Then again their vocabularies consist of not even 5,000 words.

You've kept count?

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