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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Serali » Wed 16 Dec 2009 7:56 am

Cool!

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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Sobekhotep » Thu 17 Dec 2009 7:31 am

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The character for trời (eng: sky), which is basically a <天> on top of a <上>, looks very similar to the Jurchen character for "sky"; the Jurchen character has a <丄> on the bottom instead of <上>, although both mean the same thing. The Jurchen character is read as abka. :ugeek:
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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Serali » Thu 17 Dec 2009 7:36 am

I didn't know that. I love Jurchen.

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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Neqitan » Thu 17 Dec 2009 7:41 am

imbecilica wrote:Me and a few others have been writing some articles on the Chữ Nôm Test Wiki. I translated the Lord's Prayer into Nôm yesterday: http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ ... 0%A4%95%94

In order to view the Nôm characters, you may need to install the Hán Nôm fonts A and B. If not, here's an image of it. It's colour coded, Black = Original Chinese character (Hán), Blue = Invented Vietnamese character (Nôm).

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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Serali » Thu 17 Dec 2009 7:46 am

I know right?

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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Sobekhotep » Fri 18 Dec 2009 2:06 am

Serali wrote:I love Jurchen

Me, too. I wonder if they are any invented characters shared by both Jurchen & Chữ Nôm. I'll have to look into it.
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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Serali » Fri 18 Dec 2009 3:24 am

I was wondering the same thing.

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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby imbecilica » Sun 20 Dec 2009 4:59 pm

There probably are some similar invented characters but I doubt the number would be particularly high. Vietnamese is linguistically unrelated to the Jurchen language and unlike the Jurchen characters, the Vietnamese Chữ Nôm characters pretty much follow the Chinese conventions of character creation and many Chữ Nôm characters are easily mistaken to be Chinese in origin.

Here's a song I translated called Tan Biến (To Disappear):

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If Vietnamese still used Chữ Nôm as its official writing system, then it'd probably surpass Chinese in terms of overall difficulty to learn.
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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Neqitan » Sun 20 Dec 2009 7:26 pm

imbecilica wrote:If Vietnamese still used Chữ Nôm as its official writing system, then it'd probably surpass Chinese in terms of overall difficulty to learn.

Why would it be more difficult?
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Re: Chữ Nôm ‧字喃

Postby Serali » Sun 20 Dec 2009 8:21 pm

Yes why?

I thought Chinese was the king in making your brain explode while trying to learn it. :mrgreen:

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