Altaic languages

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The Altaic family includes...

there is no Altaic family
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Turkic, Mongolic & Tungusic
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Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic & Korean
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Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic, Korean & Japonic
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other
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Re: Altaic languages

Postby dtp883 » Sun 13 Dec 2009 9:07 am

I think I remember something from when I was younger about a Uralic-Altaic Link and being stunned by the connection of Finnish and Japanese...not realising at that age that it was only a theory.
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Re: Altaic languages

Postby Sobekhotep » Mon 14 Dec 2009 2:04 am

Talib wrote:
Sobekhotep wrote:OK, so I'll provide a summary of all the "circumstantial evidence" for Altaic that I can think of.
Phonology
-vowel harmony found in every branch except, perhaps, for Japonic
-rhotic phonemes do not begin native words in any branch
-a system of complementary distribution for velar & uvular plosives & fricatives is found in Mongolic, Tungusic, & in some Turkic languages
Grammar
-SOV syntax found in every language
-all languages are agglutinative & strictly suffixing
-a case system with nominative unmarked in Turkic, Mongolic & Tungusic; a system of "particles" found in Korean & Japonic
-no articles
-no grammatical gender

-no distinction of singular & plural, except for animate nouns & pronouns; the suffixes used to show plural have similarities: compare Japanese -ra with Uzbek -lar & Tuvan -ler; Japanese -tachi, Korean -deul, Kazakh -dar
As far as I know these same traits are found in Uralic.

True, but the other traits aren't. Many language families have similar traits.

dtp883 wrote:I think I remember something from when I was younger about a Uralic-Altaic Link and being stunned by the connection of Finnish and Japanese...not realising at that age that it was only a theory.

That hypothesis has been completely debunked.
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