Neqitan wrote:The problem with notation in normal scripts is that the pronunciations of the letters of said notation evolve over time as well. So unless you have a notation based on linguistic principles like IPA or its ciphers are, then what you're doing is pronouncing old words with modern phones, instead of the best approximations we can get of the old phones... This is why necessarily all non-modern pronunciations must be reconstructions.
Unlike many languages of which you yourself might have encountered, the manchu language
remained as it was
when the spelling and letters was frozen
. Thus, all the letters pronounced today are actually how they were pronounced hundreds of years ago
. The sounds of the letters did not change because the purity mindset
kept that intact; however, the language itself surely would change of which the pronunciation of words would also be changed.
What happened to the manchu language
is a very odd case of linguistics. On one side we have a group of people who would not sway the spellings to be updated, and yet, with the pronunciation of words changing day-by-day. Those who do change the spellings went solo and departed from the main manchurian body
, such as the Sibe
. However, the modern manchu language
is not always pronounced as it is written. We write in the spellings of yesterday
but, pronounce the words as they are pronounced today
Of course, one may argue that, the letters themselves would have been changed over time. This is linguistically true but, such rarely happen in a short time. There were records in the manchu language
of the era they were written of which, documented the language of the era prior to the documents (such as classical dictionaries). These records revised themselves and then updated themselves from time to time
, and thus, the old pronunciation was never lost to modern Manchurians.
Also, I am not lacking a modern liguistic notation besides the manchu script
. I merely use the system popular amongst the chinese tungusic linguists
, and thus, I have not yet acquired the IPA and X-Sampa. Of course, one then may remark this situation of mine is making me blind
to all the western goodies
. I might be missing out, then again, I might not. Nevertheless, one wishes to sway me into learning the IPA, then fine it is, I will acquire its knowledge. Thus, case closed.