Jeisuke wrote:With the exception of a few fringe scholars, most serious linguists (especially Japanese) dismiss the historicity of Jindaimoji.
Those denials are not actually made by especially Japanese scholars. Please keep in-mind those Koreans who have both acquired Japanese identities and name. Most of these so-called academic dismissals were formed on racialistic and nationalistic points.
Jeisuke wrote:There are a few modern books on the subject (I will dig up their titles when I return home), but even they are only written for the Koshintoists who still actually believe in Izanami/Izanagi/Amaterazu-Oomikami, etc.
We should not mix religious faith with historical linguistics.
Jeisuke wrote:The (short) reasons why Jindaimoji cannot be authentic are:
1. No demonstrable use before the late 1700s (which is after the Imjin invasion of Korea). King Sejong had produced the Hunmin Jeong'eum in the mid 1400s.
There are evidences in both Mainland China and Japan as well as on the Korean Penisula that, the Jindai Moji has existed predated Hangeul by two thousand years.
Jeisuke wrote:2. By the late 1700s, the Japanese language had changed from that used in the Man'youshu. The Man'yougana used to write names, places and gramatical parts seems to indicated that Japanese at that time had 7 vowels instead of 5 as is recorded in ALL the so-called Jindaimoji scripts (Moritsune, Iyo, Hizin, Ahiru, Awa, etc). If the Jindaimoji was of such antiquity, we would expect to have the alternate "o" and alternate "e" indicated as well. The now-archaic ゐ、ゑ are indicated as would be expected of something produced in the 17~18 century
3. Starting from a syllabry to logographs and then back to a syllabry is not known in any other script evolution.
And says who the Jindai Moji characters are a syllabry? They presume it is a syllabry when the entire Jindai Moji characters are not actually deciphered. Such presumptions are common, but also, likely to be in total error.
Jeisuke wrote: I just wish they weren't so tied to the ultra-nationalist lunatic fringe in Japan.
It's the other-way-round.