Favorite rhotic consonant

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Favorite rhotic?

alveolar/dental approximant
1
7%
alveolar/dental trill
6
43%
alveolar/dental tap/flap
2
14%
alveolar/dental lateral flap
0
No votes
retroflex approximant
1
7%
retroflex tap/flap
0
No votes
uvular approximant
3
21%
uvular trill
1
7%
 
Total votes : 14

Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby dtp883 » Wed 23 Sep 2009 6:41 am

I accidentally picked retroflex approximant but I meant to pick the alveolar appoximant.
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby Sobekhotep » Mon 28 Sep 2009 4:24 am

Talib wrote:
I don't mind them, but I agree that they don't belong in Hebrew. At least the Sephardim & Temanim use a coronal rhotic.
Hmm, I thought you stopped studying French because you didn't like the way it sounded.

The problem with French is that it puts the uvular rhotic in consonant clusters & at the end of syllables. I don't have a problem with words like roche or mari. But it's the words like frère & croître that I don't like the sound of.
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby Talib » Mon 28 Sep 2009 6:53 pm

Fair point. I think the cluster /rw/ is awkward, like in croissant.
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby Sobekhotep » Tue 29 Sep 2009 1:39 am

Talib wrote:I think the cluster /rw/ is awkward, like in croissant.

Yeah, that is rather awkward.

So far, nobody has voted for [ɽ] or [ʀ].
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby adelgado » Sat 03 Oct 2009 5:46 pm

Sobekhotep wrote:
Talib wrote:I think the cluster /rw/ is awkward, like in croissant.

Yeah, that is rather awkward.

So far, nobody has voted for [ɽ] or [ʀ].


I believe I've been the first to vote for [ʀ]. But it's such a cool rhotic! I even adopted it in my Portuguese idiolect where standard is /ɦ/.

BTW, what constitutes a rhotic consonant? As stated, where I live people have /ɦ/ for <r>, <rr>.
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby Sobekhotep » Sun 04 Oct 2009 6:05 am

adelgado wrote:I believe I've been the first to vote for [ʀ]. But it's such a cool rhotic! I even adopted it in my Portuguese idiolect

I've never heard [ʀ] in a Brazilian vernacular! :o

adelgado wrote:BTW, what constitutes a rhotic consonant? As stated, where I live people have /ɦ/ for <r>, <rr>.

Indeed, that's what I use for <rr> & <r> when it starts a word. :)
For the purpose of this thread, a rhotic consonant is any of the sounds listed in the poll choices. These are the sounds for which the IPA symbol resembles the letter "r". :P
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby Vortex » Fri 13 Nov 2009 2:47 am

I stuck in between the alveolar trill (I don't think the trills can be dental or otherwise I've never seen one) and the two (or three if you have the fricative separate from the approximant) uvulars.

My own dialect of english seems to have a slightly fronted uvular approximant for its bunched-r.
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby Sobekhotep » Sat 14 Nov 2009 1:44 am

Vortex wrote:I don't think the trills can be dental or otherwise I've never seen one

They can. I think Telugu has a dental trill.
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby Vortex » Sat 14 Nov 2009 3:57 am

Sobekhotep wrote:
Vortex wrote:I don't think the trills can be dental or otherwise I've never seen one

They can. I think Telugu has a dental trill.


I would like to see a resource about that, but sometimes they include it with the dental consonants just for simplicity's sake.
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Re: Favorite rhotic consonant

Postby Vortex » Sun 15 Nov 2009 12:34 am

I would like ot make a correction to my previous statement

I wrote:(I don't think the trills can be dental or otherwise I've never seen one)


I read some more an dental trills are possible, I just haven't seen them before.
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