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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby linguoboy » Thu 03 Sep 2009 5:55 pm

Glide fortition in stressed syllables:

[ˌgwɵː.ʔɘːˈgwɵːɕej]
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby linguoboy » Thu 03 Sep 2009 5:59 pm

rickardspaghetti wrote:1. We're not making sound changes for an entire language. Just one word.

This is where I think you've fundamentally misunderstood the game. You are making changes for the entire language, it's just that we're only viewing them on a single example word. It should be possible to take another word and run it through all the same steps as the example word.

2. "ʑ is devoiced". I could've said "all sibilants are devoiced" instead

So why didn't you?
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby rickardspaghetti » Thu 03 Sep 2009 7:18 pm

linguoboy wrote:
rickardspaghetti wrote:1. We're not making sound changes for an entire language. Just one word.

This is where I think you've fundamentally misunderstood the game. You are making changes for the entire language, it's just that we're only viewing them on a single example word. It should be possible to take another word and run it through all the same steps as the example word.

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Boy, this is getting tiresome. OK. We go with you then.

linguoboy wrote:
2. "ʑ is devoiced". I could've said "all sibilants are devoiced" instead


So why didn't you?

ʑ was the only one there. I didn't occur to me to write that all sibilants are devoiced.
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby linguoboy » Thu 03 Sep 2009 7:43 pm

rickardspaghetti wrote:Boy, this is getting tiresome.

At last you know how I feel!

rickardspaghetti wrote:OK. We go with you then.

Very well then: your move.
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby rickardspaghetti » Thu 03 Sep 2009 7:57 pm

OK.

[ˌgwɵː.ʔɞːˈgwɵːɕøj]
Vowel harmony. The first syllable decides wether vowels will be rounded or unrounded.
I lowered the ɘ to ɞ to distinguish it from ɵ. No biggie, right?
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby linguoboy » Thu 03 Sep 2009 8:01 pm

Vowel harmony. The first syllable decides wether vowels will be rounded or unrounded.
I lowered the ɘ to ɞ to distinguish it from ɵ. No biggie, right?

Technically, that's two changes. But my change was going to be deletion of vowels in pretonic syllables anyway:

[ˌgwɵːʔˈgwɵːɕøj]

There, now it's moot.
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby rickardspaghetti » Thu 03 Sep 2009 8:22 pm

[ˌgwɵːˈgwɵːɕøj]
Loss of glottal stop.
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby linguoboy » Thu 03 Sep 2009 9:16 pm

Gemination of posttonic obstruents:

[ˌgwɵːˈgwɵːɕːøj]
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby adelgado » Thu 03 Sep 2009 11:54 pm

linguoboy wrote:Gemination of posttonic obstruents:

[ˌgwɵːˈgwɵːɕːøj]


Contraction of long vowels into high tone:
[ˌgwɵ́ˈgwɵ́ɕːøj]

The modifiers are showing up funky. So [ˌgwɵ˦ˈgwɵ˦ɕːøj]
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby Dan_ad_nauseam » Fri 04 Sep 2009 2:45 am

adelgado wrote:
linguoboy wrote:Gemination of posttonic obstruents:

[ˌgwɵːˈgwɵːɕːøj]


Contraction of long vowels into high tone:
[ˌgwɵ́ˈgwɵ́ɕːøj]

The modifiers are showing up funky. So [ˌgwɵ˦ˈgwɵ˦ɕːøj]


Devoicing of plosives.

[ˌkwɵ́ˈkwɵ́ɕːøj]
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