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Sjalsked

Postby Jayan » Tue 21 Apr 2009 2:07 am

Sjalsked is a conlang I have been working on recently. Unlike previous attempts at conlangery, this language has no culture or country associated with it (yet ;) ).

It was in some ways influenced by Danish, but I am expecting that resemblance to fade or even disappear as I continue. The alphabet and orthography are (as of 20/4/2009) designed so as to allow the language to be typed with an Icelandic keyboard.

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Re: Sjalsked

Postby Jayan » Tue 21 Apr 2009 2:09 am

Holding place for Phonetics and Writing.
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Re: Sjalsked

Postby ILuvEire » Tue 21 Apr 2009 2:40 am

Cool, I'm looking forward to it. I like to read about conlangs. :)

Also, have you ever heard of Sjal? It was made by Narbleh on Unilang, and it's an AWESOME conlang. Is this any relation to it?
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Re: Sjalsked

Postby Jayan » Tue 21 Apr 2009 2:33 pm

Nope, never heard of it. I'll have to look into it :)
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Re: Sjalsked

Postby philly_boy » Tue 21 Apr 2009 2:57 pm

Looking forward to it :)
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Re: Sjalsked

Postby Jayan » Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:25 pm

Can't seem to edit previous posts... :x

Anyway, so here's the Phonetics and Orthography section:

Phonetics:

Alphabet:

There are 25 letters in the alphabet: twelve vowels and eighteen consonants. The phonemic sounds are marked /thus/, and the phonetic sounds are marked [thus]. The ´ symbol is the vowel length marker, not a stress marker. All vowels except for Æ/æ can be made long. Often pronunciation changes with length changes.

Vowels (7):

A/ a – /a/ [a], [ǝ]
>>>Á/ á – /aː/ [aː]
E/ e – /e/ [e], [ǝ] when final
>>>É/ é – /eː/ [eː]
I/ i – /i/ [ɪ]
>>>Í/ í – /iː/ [i]
O/ o – /o/ [o], [ɔ]
>>>Ó/ ó – /ø/ [ø], occasionally [ɵ]
U/ u – /u/ [u]
>>>Ú/ ú – /uː/ [uː]
Y/ y – /aɞ/ [aɞ], [ɞ]
>>>Ý/ ý – /ai/ [ai], [aɪ]
Æ/æ - /ɛ/ [ɛ]

Consonants (18):

B/ b – /b/ [b]
K/ k – /k/ [k]
D/ d – /d/ [d]
F/ f – /f/ [f]
G/ g – /g/ [g]
H/ h – /h/ [h] or [ʔ] in some dialects/situations
J/ j – /j/ [j]
L/ l – /l/ [l]
M/ m – /m/ [m]
N/ n – /n/ [n]
P/ p – /p/ [p]
R/ r – /r/ [r] or [ɹ] before/after l, m, n, c, or z
S/ s – /s/ [s] at the beginning or middle of a word, [z] at the end
T/ t – /t/ [t]
Þ/ þ – /θ/ [θ]
Ð/ ð – /ð/ [ð]
V/ v – /v/ [v]
Z/ z – /ʒ/ [ʒ]

Consonant Combos (3):
Tj/tj – /ʧ/ [ʧ]
Sj/sj – /ʃ/ [ʃ]
Dj/dj – /dʒ/ [dʒ]

Sound Order Rules:

There are some rules concerning what sounds can follow each other.

Vowels:

 Two long vowels cannot follow each other (i.e. combinations like áé are not allowed).
 The long and short forms of a vowel may not follow each other (i.e. combinations like áa or aá are not allowed).
 A word cannot be comprised of two or more vowels without a consonant; however, a single vowel (even a long vowel) may form a word (i.e. ý or y may be words but éy cannot be).
 The short form cannot be followed immediately by the short form (i.e. aa is not acceptable).
 Vowel pronunciation is actuality is very loose, affected by the word’s position in the sentence, intonation, dialect, etc. The standard form is given in the pronunciation guide.





Consonants:

 No more than two separate consonants may follow each other (i.e. rtw would not be an acceptable combination, but rw or rt would be). Consonantal combinations (i.e. tj, sj, and dj) do not count.
 Two consonants with similar sounds (i.e. bp, þð, dt, fv, þt, ðd) cannot follow each other.
 Double consonants are forbidden (i.e. dd or þþ are unacceptable).


Syllables:

 Words are generally 1-2 syllables long.
 Compound words can be formed easily by stringing together words.
 When joining two words, -s- or –h- is sometimes inserted to aid easy pronunciation.


Stress:

 If there is a long vowel in the word, the stress goes on that syllable. If no long vowel is present, in words of two syllables, the stress goes on the first syllable.
 If no long vowel is present, in words of three or more syllables, the stress goes on the penultimate syllable.
 If two or more long vowels are present, stress is placed on the syllable of the first long vowel.
 Stress does not usually distinguish between words, so rules do not usually need to be followed strictly
 Stress changes with dialects

Any input is welcome, but please be gentlel; I've spent a lot of work finetuning this.
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Re: Sjalsked

Postby Jayan » Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:31 pm

This is the syntax/word order so far. Syntax is probably my weakest area linguistically, so if this sounds stupid, please help me.

Syntax:

Word order varies with declarative, interrogative, and imperative statements.

Declarative Statements:

Subject Complex-Object Complex-Verb Complex

Declarative statements are formally marked by the word da at beginning of the sentence. This marker is commonly left off in speech and informal writing except for the purpose of emphasis (e.g. I did say that!).

Interrogative Statements:

Verb Complex-Subject Complex-Object Complex

A simple question is marked by na at the beginning of the sentence. A question expecting a “yes” answer (e.g. You did make your bed, didn’t you?) is marked by nja at the beginning of the sentence. A question expecting a “no” answer (e.g. You didn’t fall again, did you?) is marked by sna at the beginning of the sentence. These markers are kept in speech more consistently than those of declarative statements. However, na is often left to context and word order.

The “no” response to all question types is . The “yes” answer to na- and nja-type questions is ja. To sna-type questions it is jo. (seeing the Danish influence yet? :))

Imperative Statements:

Imperative Verb Complex-Object Complex

There are no special markers for this type of sentence.

Explanation:

Within each Complex, word order is somewhat flexible. Noun complexes consist of adjectives, adverbs pertaining to those adjectives, and nouns. Verb Complexes consist of adverbs and verbs. Prepositional phrases can act as adjectives and adverbs. For indirect objects, a prepositional phrase using “for” or “to” is used as an adverbial phrase. Subordinate clauses can function as nouns (subject or object), adjective, or adverb. Possessives are considered adjectival in nature, whether or not they are expressed with a prepositional phrase.
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Re: Sjalsked

Postby philly_boy » Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:36 pm

Thats great! You seem to have given a lot of effort into this! Looking forward to more! :D
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Re: Sjalsked

Postby Jayan » Tue 21 Apr 2009 11:40 pm

philly_boy wrote:Thats great! You seem to have given a lot of effort into this! Looking forward to more! :D


:D Thanks! I've actually only worked on this for...well, about 4 months now, but I feel like I've made a lot of progress. :) The rest will come more slowly, because I've having trouble making up my mind about it. Probably next will be nouns.
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Re: Sjalsked

Postby philly_boy » Wed 22 Apr 2009 1:51 am

Concerning the syntax, I've kept it the same way as in Greek: no word order rule. It makes life easier :P But yours looks very sophisticated!
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