Logographic conscript

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Logographic conscript

Postby Neofellus » Mon 26 Aug 2013 8:09 pm

So I was wondering if there was any logographic/pictographic/ideographic constructed writing systems usable for writing. The only ones I heard of were alternative forms of chinese characters to write other languages, but no 'fictional' scripts so far. Probably people don't have time for that, so many symbols needed to be invented, I can understand that. However I think I will do a logographic/ideographic system; for the definition of logographic: symbols that represent the smallest meaningful part of the laguage; but also it's a little ideographic, beacause one character represents one idea rather than one word, like in chinese.

So the thing is, it may be much characters to invent and learn, but there are much advanteges of it. For e.g. speeds up reading, since you automatically read one word at a time, and becasue it is not based on pronunciation, there's less or no subvocalization (the voice in your head reading the text), which would slow down the reading and make understanding and focusing harder. Also logographs are really neat, takes up less space, and more suitable to represent a short message, idea, saying, word of wisdom, etc.

What I would have trouble, that writing new terms or names would need additional characters, so I decided to add syllabic characters too, which also contain single sounds, and these are used to represent basic grammatical terms, auxilliaries, names, etc., like in japanese (well, except for the names, I heard they use kanji even for that). I plan it to be relatively simple, meaning that it doesn't contain too many (or too long) strokes, and the characters are either semi- or fully cursive. I'll update when I did some of it (which won't be very soon :D).

So what do you think of (the idea of) logographic writing systems? Would you learn one? Would you create one? Too much trouble, or too much coolness? Is it worthy/advantageous to use/develope, or a waste of time?
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Re: Logographic conscript

Postby Quantum » Wed 28 Aug 2013 7:49 pm

I know of at least two; the Ákat logographic script by Rik and Fkeuswa by Clawgrip.
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Re: Logographic conscript

Postby Neofellus » Wed 28 Aug 2013 8:45 pm

Thanks, they're kinda interesting :).
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Re: Logographic conscript

Postby moonshutr7 » Mon 30 Sep 2013 1:53 pm

Hi,

This is some sort of a logographic script:

http://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/lll.htm
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Re: Logographic conscript

Postby Mikhail » Thu 28 Nov 2013 10:24 pm

Neofellus wrote: ... but there are much advanteges of it. For e.g. speeds up reading, since you automatically read one word at a time,

I personally see only one benefit of such a system - difficulty to decypher the text for the people who are not supposed to read the message. But obviosly some cryptosystems are way more effective for that purpose.
Regardless of type of a script (phonetic or logographic), even when the amount of characters ascends above 30, the text turns very quickly into unreadable mess. I suppose one need not less than some hundreds of characters to represent even the most usable objects, qualities and actions? And what about synonyms?

Neofellus wrote:So what do you think of (the idea of) logographic writing systems? Would you learn one? Would you create one? Too much trouble, or too much coolness? Is it worthy/advantageous to use/develope, or a waste of time?

I think it would be interesting idea when we first have some artificial system of meanings with strict rules for the order they come, which is specially designed to write it in logographic script. I suppose it can be only somthing really minimalistic.
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