Sean of the Dead wrote:
Maybe you should learn IPA, since for me "down" and "out" have the same vowel.
Because you don't have Canadian raising
in your speech, you poor deprived soul.
This is Major Problem #2 with the orthography, IMHO: It's phonetic in some areas where it should be phonemic. The only time these diphthongs contrast is before an alveolar tap from /d/ or /t/. That is, some speakers distinguish rider
not by the medial consonant but from the quality of the stressed vowels alone. But since locuroso doesn't include a symbol for the tap, he presumably doesn't have it or is writing it as d
, so there are no minimal pairs and, thus, no need for distinctive spellings.
The ones on wikipedia, that I have found at least don't give any examples of the sounds, therefore it's useless to me. Things like aveo-frontal has no meaning to me whatsoever.
Where have you been looking? If you search a particular term (say "alveolar tap"), you'll be taken to an article with examples from a wide variety of languages. On top of that, the article on IPA
contains links to several sites with sound files.
The sooner you start learning IPA, the more and better resources you'll be able to take advantage of. It's not too often when a global standard is this deeply entrenched.