Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

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Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

Postby shenafu » Mon 07 Jan 2013 5:12 am

Introducing Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

I want to start a discussion here for criticisms before I officially submit it to omniglot. Though if the mods like it as is and treat this as my submission, be my guest.

Here's the link: http://www.shenafu.com/code/liyahu/flownetic.php

"Flownetic is a phonetic script created by Xay Voong. The philosophy is simple, intuitive, distinguishable, practical. The flow and structure of the symbols imitate the flow and structure of your mouth, throat, tongue, and lips as you speak each sound. Unlike other phonetic writing systems, the letters are easily distinguishable from each other and simple to write. This makes it easy and fun to read and write these letters."

The lines, curves, and dots follow these rough generalizations. Straight lines represent unrounded vowels, the throat, and closed lips. Curves represent rounded vowels and placement and curving of the tongue. The dots are neutral or breathy sounds, or variation of common vowels. Myself I'm fluent in English and Cantonese, and some Mandarin, so I'm more familiar with the vowel sounds used in those languages, and approximate the flow of the other vowels found in IPA but not in those three languages.

What do you think? Does it feel intuitive for you? Is there enough variety? Is it attractive enough?
Native: English, Cantonese
Passable: Mandarin
Learnt: French
Favorite Writing Systems: Chinese, Latin, Japanese, Hangeul, Flownetic
Conscripts: Liyahu, Flownetic

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Re: Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

Postby mousefire55 » Sun 13 Jan 2013 5:46 am

Aesthetic. I like it, but... You mention a focus on differences, yet you build off roundness and frontedness.... Don't those two clash?
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Re: Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

Postby shenafu » Sun 13 Jan 2013 9:54 am

Not really.

Most (all?) scripts don't pay much attention to the amount of vowel diversity and distinctiveness. So I try to emphasize the qualities of all the different vowel sounds (ones that are classified in IPA). As such, I try to divide and classify the vowels, as much as other people classify consonants.

By acknowledging qualities like roundedness and frontedness of vowels, it provides a guideline and relationship amongst the glyphs. While at the same time, the glyphs still look different enough from each other.
Native: English, Cantonese
Passable: Mandarin
Learnt: French
Favorite Writing Systems: Chinese, Latin, Japanese, Hangeul, Flownetic
Conscripts: Liyahu, Flownetic

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Re: Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

Postby mousefire55 » Sun 13 Jan 2013 3:51 pm

Oley, I see what you mean now.
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Re: Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

Postby shenafu » Sun 31 May 2015 7:20 am

Finally submitted the phonetic script to Omniglot after some refinements and enough dwelling on it:

http://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/flownetic.htm

It can also be found under the phonetic alphabet section.

After the submission was accepted, I decided to work more on the number system. Like the letters, there is also a method to how the numbers are written. This is my latest on writing numbers:
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It also contains additional digits to facilitate writing hexadecimal values and powers of 10.

Examples of numbers:
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Native: English, Cantonese
Passable: Mandarin
Learnt: French
Favorite Writing Systems: Chinese, Latin, Japanese, Hangeul, Flownetic
Conscripts: Liyahu, Flownetic

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Re: Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

Postby martinluan » Mon 01 Jun 2015 4:03 am

Your phonetic chart is very impressive! I see you try to apply your script in languages with tones but I could not find out any tone marks. Without tone marks, it is not easy to readers to read and get the right meanings. Languages like Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai, etc will all face this challenge. It is just like writing English word without using vowels.

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Re: Flownetic - The Simple and Intuitive Phonetic Script

Postby shenafu » Mon 01 Jun 2015 5:42 am

thanks for your appreciation.

tone can be signified with IPA tone letters for now. it matches the concept for Flownetics quite well. however, perhaps tone letters should be super/subscripted, appearing smaller than phonetic letters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_letter
Native: English, Cantonese
Passable: Mandarin
Learnt: French
Favorite Writing Systems: Chinese, Latin, Japanese, Hangeul, Flownetic
Conscripts: Liyahu, Flownetic


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