Sobekhotep wrote:VROOR wrote:The Numbers:
Uzbek numbers 1-10: bir, ikki, uch, to'rt, besh, olti, yetti, sakkiz, to'qqiz, o'n.
My conclusion: it looks like the numbers of this Uyghur pidgin are of Turkic origin; none of them appear to come from Chinese.
Indeed, this pidgin did not adopt the chinese numbers (at least, not to my knowledge) but, it did adopt the chinese counting-system: the numbers from 11~19, the way they are constructed is same for turkic and chinese languages but, the numbers from 20~99 in this pidgin are immediate signs of chinese counting-system...instead having different words for 20 and 30 so on, the pidgin has şikkiwen for 20 and içuwen for 30 so on.
formiko wrote:The Turkic languages are one of my least studied language families, although I think Turkish itself is fascinating. I somehow lump all Turkish languages together (soft of like Scandinavian languages, but truly, how close are they? I'd like this answered by a native or someone who is very familiar with the family. Can an Uzbek read aTurkish newspaper?? Can a Kazakh understand a Turkish conversation? I'üe met quite a few Turks who say those languages are like Chinese to them, but I always sensed a tone of derision and they may not have been completely truthful (for political reasons probably)
I dare to state those turks lied because, once when I spoken in Uyghur without loan-words to a Turkish individual, he understood perfectly but insisted that I was speaking pure turkish with an odd accent and not Uyghur (and he would say the same for most turkic languages in the world).