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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Nov 2009 10:05 am 
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Hmm? I thought that after learning Arabic's conjugations you would be already mentally prepared for Spanish's. :)
Not to mention French, but morphology tends to be the area of a language I suck most at (or at least it takes me the longest to learn).
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Try making many sentences coming up with the conjugations as fast as you can; the idea is to "internalize" them in your head.
Yes, I try to but I don't know how to properly employ the subjunctive or anything like that.
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Among the "regular irregularities", there's these coming from those Western Vulgar Latin -> Spanish sound changes (stressed /o/ -> /we/ poder-puede; stressed /e/ -> /je/ venir-viene, /i/ pedir-pide).
Yes, I noticed those changes based on my knowledge of French. (fort and fuerte, etc.)
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There're also those "orthographic irregularities" based on the underlying phonemes:
lanzar (to throw) /lan.'θar/ - lancé (I threw) /lan.'θe/

And that's because the syllables are analyzed as:
/θa/, /θe/, /θi/, /θo/, /θu/, /-θ>
<za>, <ce>, <ci>, <zo>, <zu>, <-z>

pez (fish, singular) /peθ/ - peces (fish, plural) /'pe.θes/
I'm a seseante but I'll keep these paradigms in mind.

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009 9:20 pm 
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Actually, one could build a table similar to that used for Kana...
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If a cell has two spellings, it's where the native speaker must memorize the spelling according to etymology, like /ba/ or /xe/.

Misspelling /xe/ in /xi/ when conjugating verbs is one of the most common mistakes done by natives.

Note that many people have merged /ʎ/ and /ʝ/ into /ʝ/, and /θ/ and /s/ into either /s/ or /θ/, so they (we) also must memorize the spelling for those. :)

Misspelling <-ción> for <-sión> (and viceversa) is one of the most common mistakes by such speakers.

I didn't write them all because it's not necessary... So just added and coloured the most notable ones. The spelling of /r/ and /ɾ/ is independent of this as well...


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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
PostPosted: Wed 11 Nov 2009 9:44 pm 
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What's an example of a Spanish word containing yi?

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Re: What languages are you learning and plan to learn?
PostPosted: Thu 12 Nov 2009 12:31 am 
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When I was making the table I was thinking of diminutives.

hoyo -> hoyito
raya -> rayita


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