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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby Talib » Sun 06 Sep 2009 9:56 pm

/ŋ/ is lost between nasalized vowels and a consonant.

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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby Kietl » Mon 07 Sep 2009 4:31 am

linguoboy wrote:
Kietl wrote:Initial [k] becomes [p].

Again, I feel I must point out: This isn't a letter-substitution game, it's sound change game. How likely is an unconditioned change of initial /k/ to /p/ in a language? (Yes, they're both voiceless plosives, but produced at opposite sides of the mouth.) If we're going to throw all phonetic plausibility out the window, then the game becomes essentially mechanical and mindless.

Actually, I was thinking the [k] > [p] shift would be possible seeing as it was an unaspirated stop in an unstressed syllable and could simply have been drawn forward by the following [fʷ]. Does that seem too implausible to you? Sorry, I suppose I should have explained.

Final [k] is voiced to [g] after nasalized vowels:

[zʷẽĩg]
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby dtp883 » Mon 07 Sep 2009 7:09 am

A lot of these changes aren't entirely plausible so [g] palatalizes AFTER front vowels.

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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby Talib » Mon 07 Sep 2009 7:41 am

We should try to make the changes plausible though.

For example: [zʷẽĩdʒ]. Palatalized velars shift to postalveolar affricates. Very common change among the world's languages.
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby ILuvEire » Mon 07 Sep 2009 8:36 am

[zʷẽĩʧ]

Devoicing of final stops and affricates.
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby Talib » Mon 07 Sep 2009 6:00 pm

Mid-to-high diphthongs are monophthongized.

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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby rickardspaghetti » Mon 07 Sep 2009 7:50 pm

[zʷeːnʧ]
The e loses its nasalization and the ʧ is prenasalized as a result.
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby linguoboy » Mon 07 Sep 2009 7:52 pm

Long vowels shortened in closed syllables:

[zʷenʧ]
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby rickardspaghetti » Mon 07 Sep 2009 7:55 pm

Is this really the word "paralyzing" anymore!? :)
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Re: Sound changing game.

Postby Talib » Mon 07 Sep 2009 8:46 pm

No, it's "zwench."

Mid vowels are lowered in closed syllables.

[zʷɛnʧ]
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