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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby dtp883 » Tue 05 Jan 2010 1:13 am

One thing I wonder is if they teach it with Modern Hebrew pronunciation or the reconstructed ancient pronunciation (and the same for Greek).


When I was learning Ancient Hebrew, before I decided it was useless to me and switched to Modern Hebrew, I used many sources on the internet, obviously, they are not as authorative or structured as a university class would be, but they all listed pronunciation like Modern Hebrew: ayin is silent like aleph, hhet and khaf are pronounced the same, tet and tav both have the value /t/, etc.
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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby Talib » Tue 05 Jan 2010 2:57 am

I suppose that's the most common way of teaching but I got a grammar which explained the original phonology and also went into some depth on etymology. Very interesting.

Anyway I won't hijack this thread anymore. It's all Greek to me.
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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby formiko » Tue 05 Jan 2010 5:17 am

Talib wrote:I suppose that's the most common way of teaching but I got a grammar which explained the original phonology and also went into some depth on etymology. Very interesting.

Anyway I won't hijack this thread anymore. It's all Greek to me.


I've always pronounced Koine Greek like Modern Greek. I pronounce βλεπω like vlepo, NOT blepo. My seminary instructor was Greek, and he always pronounced ειναι as ene and not eynai :)
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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby Stosis » Fri 22 Jan 2010 12:21 am

In my Greek class we just pronounce things how we feel. Yep, that's right no one's wrong. Mostly, we use pronunciation conventions that are convenient and their correctness isn't considered.

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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby Delodephius » Fri 22 Jan 2010 1:00 am

My pronunciation of Greek is quite influenced by my native language. I basically read everything phonetically, every letter one sound, and I almost always ignore diphthongs and digraphs.
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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby Talib » Fri 22 Jan 2010 2:18 am

That works for a written language, I suppose, but I'd assume if you were speaking Greek you'd want to pronounce it the way natives do.

I personally prefer to read things accurately even if it's a dead language. It often makes spelling easier, for one thing.
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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby Delodephius » Fri 22 Jan 2010 2:30 am

That works for a written language, I suppose, but I'd assume if you were speaking Greek you'd want to pronounce it the way natives do.

Not really. I like "barbarian" accents rather then the native ones.
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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby Talib » Fri 22 Jan 2010 2:56 am

So in all the languages you're learning, you make no effort to sound like a native?

Would you pronounce γύρος [ˈʝiros] like ['giros]?
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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby dtp883 » Fri 22 Jan 2010 3:41 am

I don't see the point of learning a foreign language, if you're going to let your accent be so bad that no one understands you anyway. I mean you'd have to relearn a lot if you become use to the "barbarian" accent, instead of just learning it the right way they first time.
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Re: Koine Greek Grammar

Postby Delodephius » Fri 22 Jan 2010 10:18 am

Talib wrote:So in all the languages you're learning, you make no effort to sound like a native?

Would you pronounce γύρος [ˈʝiros] like ['giros]?

I think I'd pronounce it as ['gyrɔs].

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