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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby Delodephius » Thu 20 Aug 2009 11:12 am

To us lay people, the OT is irrelevant. The story of the NT could have happened in China or Mexico as far as we care. We believe we understand what Jesus said without knowing the story of the OT. The OT may be interesting, I personally don't find it that way.

To most of Eastern Europeans, the Bible is more of an icon, a thing you place on a shelf and pray before. Few people would dare to open it and read from it. People believe in superstition and fate, not the will of God, and ghosts, warewolfs, vampires and whatnot. Most don't speak badly about the dead so they won't come to haunt them. People worship saints and make sacrifices to them. Pigs are usually killed for every celebration. From all that you may conclude we are Pagans rather than Christians, and I think we are. It's what I believe is called Folk Christianity, and unlike in the countries that were introduced to Christianity only in the age of Colonialism, in Eastern Europe it has been practised for over a thousand years.
That is why we only care to look into the NT, just so that we could find some wisdom in Jesus' words. The OT is alien to our culture, to our way of life.

I said I don't consider myself Christian. I try to follow Stoic philosophy and Buddhism. I'm also somewhat interested in Zoroastrianism. Islam is also more appealing to me than Christianity. In my beliefs I'm a Pantheist, not a Monotheist.
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby Sobekhotep » Fri 21 Aug 2009 7:35 am

Delodephius wrote:Islam is also more appealing to me than Christianity.

Why is that? You like Islamic law & jurisprudence?
I'll admit, I like the no-interest thing. :D
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby Delodephius » Fri 21 Aug 2009 8:35 pm

Sobekhotep wrote:
Delodephius wrote:Islam is also more appealing to me than Christianity.

Why is that? You like Islamic law & jurisprudence?
I'll admit, I like the no-interest thing. :D

I don't know exactly why. I forgot. It was a long time ago since I read anything about it. I do not like the archaic laws, but there is something in Islam that appeals to me, some sense of equality, Islamic socialism is it not? Anyway, I don't want to get into anything of that because I know little about it.
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby Talib » Fri 21 Aug 2009 10:29 pm

Islam has a strong tradition of social welfare (like the paying of 2.5% of one's income into a public fund - known as zakāt) and other edicts from the Qur'ān, and the modern ideology of Islamic socialism is derived from this. So you're not too far off.

Other practices have to do with the proper treatment of widows, orphans, the aged etc. You can look it all up online.
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby dtp883 » Sat 22 Aug 2009 3:20 am

I don't like Islam for the fact that revelation is dependent on one man alone. The Bible in Christianity and Judaism is written by many people spanning many generations, as does Hinduism with the Rig Veda. Even evolution with different persons contributing discoveries. Also the fact that many countries and people interpret Islam in a very...barbaric way.
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby linguoboy » Sat 22 Aug 2009 3:25 am

dtp883 wrote:I don't like Islam for the fact that revelation is dependent on one man alone.

So you don't consider Shia--or even mainstream Sufism--"Islam"?
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby dtp883 » Sat 22 Aug 2009 3:48 am

linguoboy wrote:
dtp883 wrote:I don't like Islam for the fact that revelation is dependent on one man alone.

So you don't consider Shia--or even mainstream Sufism--"Islam"?


I meant in terms of central holy texts (well not for evolution). The Qur'an in the case of Islam.
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby formiko » Sat 22 Aug 2009 5:52 am

Talib wrote:
Other practices have to do with the proper treatment of widows, orphans, the aged etc. You can look it all up online.


Christianity is the same. Actually, Christ told us not to even EAT unless our neighbor has food. We can not have more than our brothers in Christ. Comtemporary Christianity has fallen FAR from that actually. Hoewever, all is not lost. There are quite a few Christians out there who take the communist/socialist tennets of Christianiy literally (Me being one of them)
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby Sobekhotep » Sat 22 Aug 2009 6:03 am

dtp883 wrote:many countries and people interpret Islam in a very...barbaric way.

But that's not Islam's fault.
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Re: Polyglot Jesus

Postby formiko » Sat 22 Aug 2009 8:45 am

Sobekhotep wrote:
dtp883 wrote:many countries and people interpret Islam in a very...barbaric way.

But that's not Islam's fault.


I agree 100%. People use most religions like a Chinese menu. Pick what you like and leave the rest :(
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