dtp883 wrote:You can't really call past racisms into this since we are discussing the present or else you'd have to consider the Nazis and the USSR genocides.
I'm not calling any past racism, all of the ones I've mentioned still exist today. Although I don't remember from what tribe he was, in a meeting with an American Aboriginal, while showing us all his culture, had also stated how much he and his people had been stigmatized throughout his life (he's wasn't old either). He basically explained how his own mother's ethnicity caused him shame through the discrimination that they were subjected to, and that as a result, he denounced being Aboriginal and later moved away to the big city, leaving everything behind. As you can guess, in many ways he later regretted that, and now feels compelled to use this to teach others about the underlying problems within our society and reserves. As for Mexicans, I'll let you judge this
article on your own.
dtp883 wrote:I don't think the US level of racism can be leveled with the current state of Darfur or the mass killings of Rwanda. I must admit though Middle Easterners currently are the target of hate.
What is happening in Darfur is horrible, I think we can both agree on that. Though the Rwandan Genocide happened 15 years ago, it doesn't accurately reflect the state of modern Rwanda. And since you brought both of these up, the amount of civilian deaths caused by the war with Afghanistan and Iraq, on top of the US-funded Israeli war on Lebanon, basically triples out the figures of the first two mentioned together. The only difference is that no one has labelled your war as an all-out genocide, but no one had considered the war in Rwanda a genocide at the time either, until it was basically too late. Same thing happened with the Khmer Rouge Revolution in Cambodia, a regime based on the cultural revolution in China, but surpassing it in all aspects; it even puts modern North Korea to shame. But once more, the entire world never made much of it at the time. Briefly, if there was no racism against Middle Easterners, then explain Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo, Maher Arar, the no fly list, or extraordinary rendition.
As for modern China, I never once stated anything against its abuses on Human Rights. I already agree with what you say about it, but this still doesn't mean that our Western World is devoid of its own abuses. In his book Les abus de la mémoire
, Tzvetan Todorov basically states that our society must stop lingering within the memories of the past and believing in false realities, but rather use their example to address both the injustices of the present and prevent those in the future. Otherwise if we remain "culte de la mémoire" (cult of our own memory), we'll fail as a society to make progress and realize what is going on around us right now. While we easily criticize China for its far more visible form of censorship, we continue to ignore the censorship
in our own society.
And for another comparison, why isn't Israel on that list? Within the last 6 years it's been accused several times of War Crimes, Human Rights abuses, and violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, just to name a few. Even Lebanon ranked overall higher on the list of Freedom of Press, compiled by Reporters Without Borders in 2008. To the point, even countries unmentioned in his list have serious issues in regards to Human Rights. To name a few more, Yemen, Sri Lanka, Philippines, Mexico... If you're absolutely against all Human Rights, then I fail to see why I was criticized, when this requirement limits the entire world.
linguoboy wrote:The first problem I see is one of shifted goalposts. (...)
Yeah, I realized that as well. But unfortunately I could not make a direct comparison as there was no information listed on the United States itself. :/ Even Freedom House is based in the United States, so in regards to that, I would prefer to have an independant report that analyses not only the individual country's internal freedoms and violations to Human Rights, but external as well. What I like about Reporters Without Borders, is that for certain countries including the United States (36 & 119) and Israel (46 & 149), is that they provided rankings separately for internal and external (media) affairs.