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Sobekhotep · **Posted:** Wed 02 Dec 2009 12:34 am

Delodephius wrote:

Eating eggs and milk is a violation of animal rights.

Since when did animals have rights? :roll:

I don't drink milk anyway since I'm lactose-intolerant. I don't eat eggs, either. Just don't like 'em.

Delodephius · **Posted:** Wed 02 Dec 2009 12:38 am

Sobekhotep wrote:

Since when did animals have rights? :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism

And I also advise you to watch this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 130308142#

I watched for like 20 minutes maybe a year and a half ago and still see vivid images and an urge to cry.

Sobekhotep · **Posted:** Wed 02 Dec 2009 1:01 am

Delodephius wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights

The idea that a mere animal should be treated as a social equal to a human being is absolutely preposterous to me.

Delodephius · **Posted:** Wed 02 Dec 2009 1:05 am

Sobekhotep wrote:

Delodephius wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights

The idea that a mere animal should be treated as a social equal to a human being is absolutely preposterous to me.

Well you're far from the sharpest tool in the shed as far as I'm concerned. If you cannot understand why animals have rights... well, let me put it this way: if your mother was brain-dead is it moral for me to eat her?

rickardspaghetti · Joined:Fri 17 Apr 2009 2:28 pm Posts:204 Location: Sweden

Delodephius wrote:

Sobekhotep wrote:

Delodephius wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights

The idea that a mere animal should be treated as a social equal to a human being is absolutely preposterous to me.

Well you're far from the sharpest tool in the shed as far as I'm concerned. If you cannot understand why animals have rights... well, let me put it this way: if your mother was brain-dead is it moral for me to eat her?

No, because she is human. Can you really not keep humans and animals separated? Then you're far from the sharpest tool in the box.

dtp883 · **Posted:** Wed 02 Dec 2009 1:58 am

Delodephius wrote:

If you cannot understand why animals have rights... well, let me put it this way: if your mother was brain-dead is it moral for me to eat her?

Just because she is brain dead she doesn't turn into a cheeseburger or a roast chicken.

Also about my use of folk logic, you admitted that the chicken probably wouldn't care but that it is still theft. Does it matter if the theft doesn't cause harm? Also, even though plants and trees don't care is it right to steal their produce and fruit? Plants can't give you things willingly, so by your logic it is stealing. I mean sure they are less than animals but a plant would be more responsive than say a brain dead person.

And I still really don't care if someone is a vegetarian.

formiko · Joined:Sun 19 Apr 2009 8:31 am Posts:404 Location: Angola

The Old Testament had harsh penalties for people who treayted animals badly. We were supposed to protect and respect them.

Sobekhotep · **Posted:** Thu 03 Dec 2009 12:36 am

rickardspaghetti wrote:

Delodephius wrote:

let me put it this way: if your mother was brain-dead is it moral for me to eat her?

No, because she is human.

Exactly. Human > animal. Always.

dtp883 wrote:

even though plants and trees don't care is it right to steal their produce and fruit? Plants can't give you things willingly, so by your logic it is stealing.

Good point.

formiko wrote:

The Old Testament had harsh penalties for people who treayted animals badly. We were supposed to protect and respect them.

I'm not saying that we should treat animals badly or that it's OK to do so. I just don't think we should treat them as if they're equal to human beings.

Delodephius · **Posted:** Thu 03 Dec 2009 12:43 am

Sobekhotep wrote:

rickardspaghetti wrote:

Delodephius wrote:

let me put it this way: if your mother was brain-dead is it moral for me to eat her?

No, because she is human.

Exactly. Human > animal. Always.

That's called Speciesism. I do hope you understand what it is... Negro.

Sobekhotep · **Posted:** Thu 03 Dec 2009 1:29 am

Delodephius wrote:

Negro.

Am I supposed to be insulted by you calling me that? Sure, I have dark skin, so what? You're branco. It means nothing.